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Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 05:40:00 - [1] After being stuck in a system for 3 hours I decide on trying to get the single camper holding me back to allow me through via toll. I decide to convo him and here's the rest: Damious > yes? Jane Vladmir > Hi Jane Vladmir > You offering a toll? Damious > what you have in mind? Jane Vladmir > 3m to pass through in my pod. Damious > you must hav more implants than that cinse you're offering toll Damious > yes? Jane Vladmir > Nope, just if I get podded I'll get sent to the other side of EVE, and I'm an outlaw so it takes time to move around, you see. Jane Vladmir > My clone costs 4m, I'm offering you 3m to pass through. Damious > well, why are you guys hanging around here anyway? Jane Vladmir > Nice 0.0 traffic and goot low sec systems. Jane Vladmir > good* Damious > lolz, so is down south :) Damious > anyway, 3m sounds good Jane Vladmir > Allright, sending. Damious > got it Damious > bye After that I warped to the gate at 15km and he still popped me. I had implants worth around 200m. I re-convo him and here's what I got. Jane Vladmir > What the f***? Damious > you killed my coert costing me 40mil few days ago, this is a small token of apprecaition thanks Jane Vladmir > I sent you the toll? Damious > sent back, I am not th epirate Damious > happy travelling and hope to pod you gain I have never in my whole 2 years ransomed someone and still popped him. That's low. I hope he gets kicked out of his corp, I mean that's not good christmas spirit.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 06:47:00 - [2] Originally by: Sleyha Awwww... here let me lend you a hanky. Thanks random victim.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 07:13:00 - [3] Originally by: BlackHawk177 No I'd be far more upset about being lied to and tricked... It's not about what I lost it's about the way it was lost. Exactly, if it had been my own fault I'd not been so angry with this. Ofcourse a nice little ingame ransoming program would've been nice here. This is a bad day for eve players all over.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 07:25:00 - [4] Originally by: j0sephine Well, you lied to him and he lied to you. Who knows, maybe if you didn't try to be tricky about it and paid more than those 3 measly mil, you'd still have the implants intact... 50 mil of ransom would more than cover those 40 you costed him just few days earlier, and it's still way below 200 mil your implants were worth. Just something to ponder... ;s He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 07:58:00 - [5] Originally by: j0sephine "He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then." Unless he believed your lie about having no implants and 4 mil clone, and decided between 3 mil and revenge the 3 millions was worth less... "He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then." Same thing with 1 vs 1's, you don't offer someone a 1 vs 1 to warp scramble him and get your friends to gank him.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 08:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Jane Vladmir Originally by: j0sephine "He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then." Unless he believed your lie about having no implants and 4 mil clone, and decided between 3 mil and revenge the 3 millions was worth less... "He should've said 3mills wasn't enough then." Same thing with 1 vs 1's, you don't offer someone a 1 vs 1 to warp scramble him and get your friends to gank him. Says who you? Learn to adapt and use common sense already. Why are you still going on about your own stupidity. It sucks it happen and I wish more people were honorable too but that isn't very realistic now is it? My god how cool would it be if terrorist wouldn't chop off the heads of innocent people in the real world. Learn to use that brain of yours and quit posting up whine threads of pointless arguements that's your own damn fault. He is not wrong, you were wrong. Wrong in thinking you could trust someone in EVE. First thing you should learn in EVE is to TRUST NOONE. I say it's green, you say it's BLUE! You're stupid. And that was a terrible comparison.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 09:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Ralitge boyter I would say you are right it is low of him to say ok and still kill you. On the other hand if he has to choose between revenge and 3M I cannot blame him for having his revenge. But as said he should not have said ok to the 3M if he wanted his revenge. Personaly I would kick him from my corp should a he be a member. I seriously do not like people who do not make good on their word. Since I also really dislike people whining about getting podded (no mater what the situation is) I hope next time you get podded you will not bother the rest of the EVE world with your dead. I did not make this post to bother people with whinage and neither to try to get people¦s sympathy. I made this post to point out a pathetic player and to make that player pay for his low blow against me.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:00:00 - [8] Originally by: sully lang Edited by: sully lang on 27/12/2005 09:55:00 @ jane vladmir hahahahahahhahah what goes around comes around you deserve all you get . you popped me in vecamia while i was still relativley young you didnt even ransome me you popped my cyclone and called me a scum bag my char name was " lazlow lang" so boo hoo da poor pirate got podded TUFF cu out there i hope I sincerely doubt I called you a 'scum bag' random victim.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:27:00 - [9] Please don't try to change the conversation or get this post locked by flooding, I didn't make this post to argue with you what's morally right. Read my previous post about why I made it if you're still unclear on that.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:48:00 - [10] Originally by: sully lang and is replying to a post called flooding now? Replying 4 times within 6 minutes is flooding afaik.

Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 13:34:00 - [11] Josarian Lysandor summed it up.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Mira deVorsha Edited by: Mira deVorsha on 27/12/2005 15:02:05 Originally by: FoRGyL During this time did Jane ever broke her word? Do you have an instance of where Jane showed mercy to that Corp or to that guy. Put it another way, you cost a guy 40 million in damages earlier and now hes camping a gate in a system where you are in a pod. What do you personally think your chances are of getting out of that system if you (a) point out to the camper that you are in the system and (b) you only offer 3 million. It has less to do with dishonour and more to do with stupidity. You just don't get it do you. We're not talking about the risk of having implants, not my budget nor the offer I made. We're talking about tricking someone into paying a toll and still killing him. Stop this idioticy, you just don't get away with offering a toll and breaking the terms.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:25:00 - [13] Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 27/12/2005 15:26:02 Originally by: Mira deVorsha ..before putting yourself into a position where your chances of getting killed are high. Chances are high? This has never happent before and I've payed dozens of tolls, and since that player could fly a Zealot I thought he had atleast some good game experience. EDIT: And yeah, since he believed I didn't have any implants and that my clone was 4m the 3m was a good offer, if I'd go alot higher he'd likely call the bluff and make the toll alot higher, and probably still kill me when he'd see me.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:30:00 - [14] Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 27/12/2005 15:32:05 Originally by: Mira deVorsha Originally by: Jane Vladmir Chances are high? This has never happent before and I've payed dozens of tolls, and since that player could fly a Zealot I thought he had atleast some good game experience. Yes he was experienced enough to remember who you were and what you did. I doubt very much if the situation was reversed you would be on here bragging about how you killed someone who cost you so much money.. actually I can make a good bet you will in the future. And on what grounds do you assume this? I've never broken my word on a toll, and I don't brag about my kills on the forums. And 40m is not alot of money. EDIT: And by looking at your ingame character you're very likely an alt, if not fairly new to the game.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 15:43:00 - [15] Originally by: ZzeusS Originally by: Jane Vladmir Stop this idioticy, you just don't get away with offering a toll and breaking the terms. You don't? :) How long have you been playing Eve? They've been doing this since a couple weeks or so after release when the first cruiser hit 0.0. They've not been getting away with it seeing they get reported and thus don't get to ransom people and often get kicked out of their corps etc.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 16:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Mira deVorsha I am not dents alt. I am just finding the thread hilarious. You have someone who got smacked in revenge thinking they were in fact being smart and getting away with a pittance. Then coming on here demanding they were the victim. Its like a carebear coming on saying its unfair that someone attacked them without thier permission first. I'm done.. but keep posting about how he dun you wrong. That post shows about about as much intellect you have.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 18:06:00 - [17] Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 27/12/2005 18:09:51 What's stupid about paying 3m if he accepted it? It would've been stupid to pay more. I shouldn't have paid him at all by the way he acted. And yes, most of the people here arguing against me are very likely just on his side because they just don't like pirates. EDIT: Originally by: Famine Aligh'eri Beginning to think you are Janes alt. Who cares, Janes stupidity. She did it to herself for being a complete utter "Newbie". On what grounds do you assume she/he's my alt, why are you posting here if you don't care, why do you assume I'm stupid and how do you find me "New" to this game?
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 18:22:00 - [18] Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 27/12/2005 18:22:40 Originally by: bsspewer Originally by: Jane Vladmir What's stupid about paying 3m if he accepted it? It would've been stupid to pay more. I shouldn't have paid him at all by the way he acted. And yes, most of the people here arguing against me are very likely just on his side because they just don't like pirates. right. It appears as if he didn't care about the 3m isk only because 3m is chump change. Had you offered an amount that was much closer to or greater then his previous loss, I'm sure he would have reconsidered the idea of podding you. I take his side because I am a pirate, and my philosophy is "I don't give a F***". Stop whining, you are now free of the restriants your implants held on you. Go forth and pirate some more and maybe now you won't have to deal with this issue, as you don't have the implants to worry about. If so he should've said 3m wasn't enough, not fool me and get me to warp to him so he can pod me and send the money back. That's lower than rasoming someone and still popping them.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.27 21:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Jane Vladmir Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 27/12/2005 18:09:51 What's stupid about paying 3m if he accepted it? It would've been stupid to pay more. I shouldn't have paid him at all by the way he acted. And yes, most of the people here arguing against me are very likely just on his side because they just don't like pirates. EDIT: Originally by: Famine Aligh'eri Beginning to think you are Janes alt. Who cares, Janes stupidity. She did it to herself for being a complete utter "Newbie". On what grounds do you assume she/he's my alt, why are you posting here if you don't care, why do you assume I'm stupid and how do you find me "New" to this game? PA are not pirates to me. I hate PA just the same. Not on anyones side. Why are you stupid? For assuming he would let you live for ISK. Even if you paid him 200million isk. I think he would of still podded you just the same. Just to say he killed some carebear with 200million worth of implants obviously. IS it his fault for not honoring his word? Well maybe... But who really cares. It's your stupidity in thinking you could trust someone who is HOSTILE to you. Im sorry but that's like rolling into the HOOD and asking some crips to let you keep on walking threw there hood. Then get upset with the crips when they cap you in the legs. Like it MEANS ANYTHING to them in the first place. You're in there hood. Honor among thieves not among strangers who are to weak to begin with. Trust noone. Wrong answer, you're still stupid.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.28 09:31:00 - [20] I thank Kinsy for the kind words and everyone who's contributed to this thread with their own outthought points of views. To answer an earlier thread, no I did not offer his covert op nor his former pod a ransom. Nor did I remember I had killed him earlier as, not trying to be egoistic, I kill and get killed alot every day. I'm the third most podded player in eve with Mishima, another member of my corporation on the top just because we actually try to fight at every given chance. I've come up with my own way to deal with this, which should prove fun if successfully done, if his CEO or the PA CEO won't deal with this situation. Thanks again for posting those who put some good thought before they posted.

Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.28 10:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Ras Blumin Both of you lied. Lying is bad. My lies didn't affect him.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.29 07:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Tide Runner Edited by: Tide Runner on 29/12/2005 05:04:17 Just want to say one thing: Jane......... you were in a system, safe, probably in a safespot, and other people were camping it.. umm riight, anndd... YOU COULDN'T ESCAPE??? ahaha man that is the lamest story ever.. i mean i'm not a game fanatic, i play eve to a moderate extent and still i made my way through blocades, bubbles, camps and even freaking hundreds of battleships blowing the s**t out of each other. If u cannot outrun a single ennemy even if he has friends then no pitty for u love... In the future 1: Use your imagination, not a textbook scam like tolls 2: Do not trust anyone in 0.0. REMEMBER: I would pod you for NO REASON just because I simply cannot be certain that you wouldn' do it either. THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF EVE I'm sorry This is just pathetic. I didn't know people like you knew how to the forums work.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.29 07:44:00 - [23] This is my closing statement on this post. If I were in his shoes and would've breached the toll terms and he'd be the one sh***ing over my name on the forums all of the ones on his side now would be on his side on that particular post, even though we were talking about the same case. The single reason they're posting here in his favor is the fact that they don't like me, or that they don't like player pirates in particular. Some of them I've personally hurt by either killing them, or as in Trey's situation, shown my superiority. What Damious did was wrong and should be frowned upon, if everyone did business like he did ransoms wouldn't be part of the game and less people would play the game. Now if there's a Forum Operator reading this you can lock this thread as I didn't create it to start flame wars between pirates and carebears.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.29 07:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Agricola Augusta I get it, you're Ginger Magician's ALT? Stop smacktalking and spamming.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.29 18:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz But if it makes the victim feel any better, I blew up Damious's Zealot yesterday (or was it sac?) and took all his t2 gear. This time it actually does.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.30 02:24:00 - [26] Originally by: Nee'kita Frist Scan the gate next time. I did. He was still there but I trusted he'd upfill the contract as I have amongst hundreds of others for 2 years. I didn't seriously expect someone, nor anyone to betray someone like this. I can tolerate corp theft, I can tolerate friendly fire, I can easily tolerate scamming but this is something that not even children do.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.30 03:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Jane Vladmir Originally by: Nee'kita Frist Scan the gate next time. I did. He was still there but I trusted he'd upfill the contract as I have amongst hundreds of others for 2 years. I didn't seriously expect someone, nor anyone to betray someone like this. I can tolerate corp theft, I can tolerate friendly fire, I can easily tolerate scamming but this is something that not even children do. So, aparently the only thing you can't tolerate is getting outsmarted. All the other dasterdly deeds most people hate in this game are ok by you. Outsmarted is a bad word here, I knew he could betray his word but I sincerely doubted he'd be so stupid as to doing such a bad thing to his name. Since corp thieves are named on the forums, why shouldn't I name his shame?
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.12.30 15:27:00 - [28] I'm just going to grief him, f**k what you people think this guy's annoying. He's still sending me eve-mails on how his PA comrats are congratulating him and saying I deserved it.

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